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Saturday, June 01, 2002  

A theist or no?

The basic atheist response to any assertion about God is generally - prove it! The theist's counterpoint may be the same. For the atheist, when asked how all life, creation, being, consciousness, and purpose came to pass, must point to the universe in its matter and energy and says, "from that." To which, the theist is happy to reply, prove it! (Which of course he can't. Nor answer the query - and pray tell where all 'that' came from?)

But that's not the point of this blog. I once asked an atheist why, since he didn't believe in God, does he pray?

"What do you mean? I'm an atheist. I don't pray."

"You never proclaimed - Omygod! Jesus Christ! God help me. God d***it. To hell with you?"

"Those are just expressions. They don't mean anything. I'm not praying."

"Why would a rational man, such as yourself, resort unconsciously then to prayers to God of one kind or another?"

"I told you, it doesn't mean anything."

"But you tell me you are rational. Why do you appeal to a God you don't believe in or make oaths to the same God that doesn't exist? Why not say Oh Zeus! instead, if you want an oath? Who are you talking to? And if not God, then why would you address an imaginary being with your momentary problem or situation? Explain the rationale of that. If it means nothing, why say it?"

"I'm not addressing any being since there is no God."

"Then you are talking to your self? You must be mad then. That's not rational. But yet, you don't say, "Pete help me!" Once again, you say you're a super rational man. Explain once again why an intelligent being blurts out any words (well within your control, unless you are always at the mercy of your emotions) to someone who is not there? Wouldn't you say that was irrational?"

And various swear words and vulgar oaths follow as the man who says he has no superstitions is always ready to address deity over any sudden and difficult or frightening situation.

posted by Mark Butterworth | 3:43 PM |

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